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16 Comments on "HAL’s Baweja: Two different prototypes of 5th Gen fighter, etc"

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7 years 7 months ago

Aroor, were you there for this function and heard yourself Baweja saying all that?

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7 years 7 months ago

Finding and Training one pilot itself is difficult!After 2020 how many youngsters will come forward to join airforce as fighter pilots?
we also should opt for single pilot aircraft like the russians. So,much automation is going to be there with AESA forward and rear with 360 deg allround look capability with conformal arrays,powerfull mission and signal processors, Automated cockpit management,weapon launching computers networked on the aircraft! why do we need twin piloted FGFA?

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7 years 7 months ago

MCA nowhere is in sight or it will b no early than 2020

thats y v r going with russia cuz

neither europe making 5th gen fighters and USA don’t export f22

and f 35 is inferior to pakfa

anmd pakfa will b in f22 class

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Anonymous
7 years 7 months ago

MR baweja should b fired

he can’t even organise hal

v can’t even produce enough su30 quickly

can’t produce dhruvs quickly

just think how may LCA will b produced per year

just think how many MRCA aircraft will b produced per year

Mihir
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7 years 7 months ago

Anon @ 7:07,

After a point, the sensor fusion and automation tend to overwhelm the pilot. If there are two crew members, the load is eased, leading to improved performance.

IIRC, the French faced the same problems with their single-seat Rafales and the AdlA is demanding more two-seaters (I could be wrong on this, though).

Prasun K Sengupta
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7 years 7 months ago

To Mihir@10.30PM: I agree with you about the performance dilemma faced by the Dassault Rafale and therefore there have been more tandem-seaters ordered than the single-seat variant. But EADS and BAE Systems on the other hand claim that such problems have been resolved on the EF-2000 Eurofighter. But all in all, I must say that Dr Baweja’s limited soundbytes on the FGFA project have raised far more questions, instead of revealing much.

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7 years 7 months ago

When you say joint venture, how much technology transfer are we looking up? I mean, how independent would India be in making these crafts if Russia should pull the rug?

Brahmos had a similar ending – where Mr.Sivathanu shrugged questions about the ramjet engine saying that there is not tech transfer in joint developments! Will this be the same case with FGFA?

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7 years 7 months ago
TO ANON AT 5.48 AM no country transfers their latest tech e.g USA doesn’t SELLS THEIR electronic warfare systems USA refused to provide source codes for JSF buyers even to UK and UK threatened to pull out US not selling their f22 US hestating to transfer apg79 radar tech ————————————————- and similar case is with russia and france france hesitating to transfer rafale tech look at china they r still dependent on russia for engines, radars for THEIR J11 seekers for pl 12 missile r provided from russia russia not providing brahmos like stuff to china no help in making… Read more »
Abhiman
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7 years 7 months ago
Mr. Aroor, in my view, the FGFA cannot be called a “joint development” because it is essentially a wholly Russian plane, which is only being locally customized by India. As per Mr. Baweja’s statement, India would develop only the twin-seater version of the original Russian T-50. Thus, India’s effort would be similar to Israel’s customized twin-seat F-16I Sufa, or the twin-seat variant of Su-27. As the development of both these planes did NOT involve any significant efforts, time or re-engineering at all, the development of an Indian two-seater would also not involve much efforts. Mr. Baweja also stated that the… Read more »
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7 years 7 months ago

Anon/Abhiman,

Thanks for your comments. BTW, china has been sold the silk worm missile, which is only slightly slower version. Most imporatantly, CHINESE HAVE the BRAINS to reverse engineer, which we COMPREHENSIVELY lack.

I believe MCA questions should be directed to DRDO/ADA and not HAL.

Considering this is the first shot by Russians on stealth, wonder how low the RCS is going to be for FGFA.And I have serious doubts about the timelines they are projecting. US took 20 years to design, develop, test and perfect the Raptor…

-Anon @ 5:48

Teews
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7 years 7 months ago

And with that the entertainment channel is back on 🙂 Welcome back Abhiman.

Jiska kasoor hai, woh bhi bekasoor hai 🙂

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Anonymous
7 years 7 months ago

prasun k sengupta and abhiman, dumb and dumber, the funniest movie ever made!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Abhiman
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7 years 7 months ago
Addressed to Anon @ 9:06 pm : See, India has managed to obtain the working and manufacturing process of the ramjet engine of Brahmos, by repeated inspections and close observation of the same, even though Russia is not bound to disclose the same to India. Thus, in the area of ramjet missiles, India does not “lag behind” China. As per a recent interview of Dr. Natarajan, he mentioned that MCA will be an extension of Tejas LCA, and he also recommended that IAF must acquire 250 MCAs. In a conference in Feb. 2007, he had mentioned details about MCA. In… Read more »
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7 years 7 months ago

abe abhiman,

kyun tu sabka bheja khaata hain?

all the time same post repeat.

in latest new indian express mca program has been cleared by IAF to replace MRCA. so stop crying ur precious mrca is safe!!!!

Abhiman
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7 years 7 months ago
To the above anonymous commentator, it may be said that the Indian Express news report in question is unclear. As the MRCA are meant to serve upto 2040 or 2050, it is unlikely that it’s successor is being conceptualized nearly half a century before, today (as the then technologies and operational requirements are not known today). However, if we assume that the multirole fighters in question are the serving MiG-29s and Mirage-2000s in the IAF, then it may be possible that the IAF is following the USAF paradigm of 5th G fighters. In USAF, the F-22 was concieved as a… Read more »
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anthony
6 years 11 months ago

The FGFA, or Su-50MKI (as I would call it), co-developed by Sukhoi and HAL, would be India's Raptor.

By the 2020s, India would have needed a Gen 5 Raptor-type fighter to supplant the Su-30MKI Flanker in the event of operations against PAF and especially PLAAF,high up in the mountainous Himalayas.

As I recalled seeing online pictures of the PAK FA, even before its scheduled first flight, it proves that this project would take an arduous amount of time and effort to put together correctly.

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