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34 Comments on "CNN-IBN REPORT: Eurofighter, Rafale Lead MMRCA Pack"

Ravi Khanna
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Ravi Khanna
5 years 1 month ago

Old Report…

Anonymous
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Anonymous
5 years 1 month ago

Same old rehashing of rumours which mean nothing until price negotiations begin. The jet that meet requirements at acceptable price would be on top.

DGA
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5 years 1 month ago

And the best choice is Rafale because is "Combat proven" in Afghanistan and in Libya (carrier operations, long radius missions for Armée de l'Air's Rafale, bombing with ASSM and SCALP-EG/Apache, reconnaissance missions, air-to-air refuelling…)

In the same time the British and Italian Eurofighter Ttphoons are only used for air-to-air missions… but Libyan AF has not operational fighters !!

buddha
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5 years 1 month ago

India should mind its territorial need
the air craft which is good in thar region may not be apt in ladhak or arunachal prodesh

super hornet is perfect
rafale has deep penetration quality
eurofighter gives india access to europe

As the number is going to be 280+
India should split the contract
Super hornet=120
Euro-fighter =90.
rafale=80

Pankaj
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Pankaj
5 years 1 month ago

Iaf shud be go rafel b,cos france is a real power of world it's policy not follw USA bt otr eurofiter country r nt reiable policy aginst indian kashmir and tarrism

Anonymous
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Anonymous
5 years 1 month ago

super pig is far from being perfect, buddha

Bhavin
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5 years 1 month ago

shiv u r late to post ths news. Bharat rakshak hd alrdy posted.

And finaly as i told, and again telling 'waiting for RAFALEs'

Jake Lor
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5 years 1 month ago

Why would in the hell India want to buy Eurofighter Typhoon or Dassault Rafale.

Eurofighter is too expensive and it's AESA radar is still underdevelopment.

India already buy french fighter the Mirage 2000H. The French Fighter is also expensive too. An also it's AESA radar is still underdevelopment.

Anonymous
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Anonymous
5 years 1 month ago

If this report had said the teens were in the lead, Good lord almost everyone reading this blog would have jumped on it: CNN an American company, one of the two player one CNN-IBN, is out there pushing American product, or acting as a mouth-piece for the US businesses and the US Govt. I love this: If it's what you want to hear it's OK, anything else is a biased reporting.

Anonymous
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Anonymous
5 years 1 month ago
Anon @ 6:21 pm Stop wasting time on what would have been. Apparently the report does not put the teens on top and there rests the matter. In any case CNN-IBN's interest in matters such as this deal or weapon induction / purchase is negligible unless there is a scandal. I doubt if they have done any level of research. This is a rehashing of the top circulation rumors as a 'story'. Nothing great. Shiv,Your posts on the MMRCA have been disappointing. First you do a poll telling everyone that I know the pecking order but won't tell. Then you… Read more »
Anonymous
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Anonymous
5 years 1 month ago
Anon @ 6:21 pm Stop wasting time on what would have been. Apparently the report does not put the teens on top and there rests the matter. In any case CNN-IBN's interest in matters such as this deal or weapon induction / purchase is negligible unless there is a scandal. I doubt if they have done any level of research. This is a rehashing of the top circulation rumors as a 'story'. Nothing great. Shiv,Your posts on the MMRCA have been disappointing. First you do a poll telling everyone that I know the pecking order but won't tell. Then you… Read more »
Anonymous
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Anonymous
5 years 1 month ago

I am tired of all this nonsense

Mr. Ra
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Mr. Ra
5 years 1 month ago
I see that mostly all the videos of EFT are in dogfight or air superiority mode only. Whereas mostly all the videos of Rafale are in ground strike or deep penetration mode only. Perhaps this makes the difference. Looking in to the immediate and long terms needs of India, I think the Rafale replaces the Mig-21, Mig-27, Jaguar and Mirage-2000. Whereas EFT replaces the Mig-21 and Mirage-2000 only that too at higher costs and times. As the world has entered in to the Fifth Gen, so I think it would be a waste of money to purchase more than 126… Read more »
Tilda
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Tilda
5 years 1 month ago
We simply cannot match Cheen conventionally in any possible way, regarding pk,,if there is a conflict with pk,,,then Cheen will show up 100%,,,so the point is, there is not much use of conventional force such as this,obviously we wont risk going into thier territory with these birds,,,what we need is unconventional N to deter both of them from adventures,,it should be from deep sea, underwater, huge SAM's assets with lot of real time satellite intelligence and mapping, howtzrs sprinkled everwhere at borders , lots of intelligence gathering and planning,,and a good set of birds to counter any that make thru… Read more »
Raman Kumar Singh
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Raman Kumar Singh
5 years 1 month ago
From last couple of day's, I am trying to analyze on these aircraft and was trying to find out the suitable one for us. I have a bad feeling on all contenders and then I thought lets choose one with minimum problems/disadvantage. EF -> Currently active in multiple countries. However, its too costly and spare parts will be a disadvantage. AESA is still not ready. There TOT looks good though. My rating 4 out of 5. F-18 & F-16 -> I am not in favor of any american aircraft, as we can't believe them in any given situation and TOT… Read more »
Anonymous
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Anonymous
5 years 1 month ago

GOOD NEWS !! bye bye americans !

Ravi Khanna
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Ravi Khanna
5 years 1 month ago

Hey Shiv Can u post on the latest.. thread!!

Chinese army knocks at Kashmirs doors?

Anonymous
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Anonymous
5 years 1 month ago
the rafale radar was availableFrench have make in 2009 one command of 60 rafale, and the AESA was in.You see today the rafale in libya, when all government was in talk in Paris, you have over libya, in the same time, some rafale, libya don't have see them.The rafale today was very excellent, he make all, and he was every years better.The eurofighter just make modification for launch one bomb, not before 2018, all partners reduces orders, the trench 1 was destined to the cimetary, trench 2 need be upgraded.Seriously if india need make one choice about these 2 planes,… Read more »
Anonymous
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Anonymous
5 years 1 month ago

This comment does not hysterically rant and rave about it´s poster´s personal preferences and opinions on pros/cons of MMRCA tenders.

Manne
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Manne
5 years 1 month ago

I have consistently said for many years now. The smart thing for the French would be to co-produce Rafale with India as the base and sell it world over with IAF for reference. Win-Win!

– Manne

Anonymous
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Anonymous
5 years 1 month ago

Those of you harping on the EFT, please do read this article.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/03/eurofighter_nao_analysis/

Anonymous
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Anonymous
5 years 1 month ago

As it has happened in the past when the IAF wanted the A-330 MRTT the Finance and the Defence Ministries disapproved of it saying that it was too expensive compared to the Russian IL-78. here also in case of MMRCA even if the IAF wants the Typhoon or the Rafale will the Ministry of Finance agree to this or they will force the enduser (IAF) in selecting a cheaper aircraft like the Gripen or the F-16.

Animesh
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Animesh
5 years 1 month ago
WOW after reading all the comments, let me offer my perspective of the french campaign in libya. i believe mr sarkozy just delivered a beautiful masterstroke. first it was necessary to carry these airstrikes to show that france still matters in international diplomacy. then in one shot, rafale started cracking up operational experience.i believe technicalities of the result will be shared with India to silence the critics who were questioning the real time war experience of rafael when compared to teen series fighters. now with opertional experience & just fresh after the validation of AESA on rafale, they just gained… Read more »
Anonymous
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Anonymous
5 years 1 month ago

I still think Gripen is the most fighter for the money, and it will probably give the most to the industry.

SAAB will share everything they know, and that is alot if you are willing to listen. They are world leaders when it commes to networking between fighters, and their fighters are reliable and cheap (for a modern fighter).

Sweden has a law forbidding arms sales to countries at war, but they dont break signed contracts. So once the deal is closed and signed, that law doesnt affect anything as far as I know.

Mr. Ra
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Mr. Ra
5 years 1 month ago

As all of them are eagerly awaiting for F-35 to be brought about in the ground attack role, so they may be least interested to develop costly EFT for this role. Then after EFT will be turned in to a beautiful flying White Elephant.

I think we can entirely depend upon the strong chain of Tejas-I & II, Mig-29, Rafale, Sukhoi-30MKI, FGFA/T-50 and AMCA.

Anonymous
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Anonymous
5 years 1 month ago

This procurement should be the last time a complete weapon system that is required in large numbers is imported. All such key equipment should be developed or co-developed by India. The services should have no other option in this regard.

The government should formally advise each of the three services to fall in line and support domestic development. The government should simultaneously try out new ideas for indigenous development of key equipment.

Anonymous
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Anonymous
5 years 1 month ago

Anon @ 7.31, completely agree with you – still India should not entertain the idea of buying Gripen for two important reasons ;
– We have our own Tejas which is in the same class
– Too much imported component in the plane

Politically, buying Gripen is just not possible as people like me will crucify the Government for working against domestic products.

Gautam
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5 years 1 month ago

By the time this idiotic tendering process is finished fifth-gen fighters like the F-15 Silent Eagle, F-35, the Japanese ATD-X and the Korean KFX will already been available. Then Antony and his inept MOD will cancel this as 'outdated' and start a new SMRCA(Stealthy Multi Role Combat Aircraft) circus.

Anonymous
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Anonymous
5 years 1 month ago

I agree with anon 12:01pm,
and politically buying Gripen Ng is a bad idea for any country with a spine.

Eagle
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Eagle
5 years 1 month ago

Rafale is the best bet for India.EF is good for only air to air role."Teen" series aircraft India should not buy as America is unreliable.Gripen is advance version of Tejas aircraft and Mig-35 is just adavnce version of Mig-29.India compensate Russia by joining in FGFA/PMA project.
@Shiv:-After coming back from Libya we are not getting quality military hardware nws from this site.

Anonymous
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Anonymous
5 years 1 month ago
Rafale is a good a/c and there is no doubt about it. But how many countries around the world have bought the Rafale. As of now, only France operates Rafale. It would be better to take the 40 Rafale France is offering and use it as a Strategic Nuclear delivery platform (as mentioned in one of the earlier posts on this blog). The F-16 is a much better bet. Operated by many countries, it is a nimble fighter. It might have its origins in the 70s or 80s, but it is fighter whose capabilities have been proven in combat. Cost… Read more »
SmestarZ
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5 years 1 month ago
Friends, my view as follows A) the competition is for Medium Multirole Combat Aircraft, also the Indian Airforce expects twin engined fighter for better reliabilityThat should be end of story for F-16 and Gripen. Both F-16 and Gripen are clean fighters, but Gripen is light weight aircraft and has some US parts which require US ratification. Also Pakistan uses F-16 so no fun having similar aircraft. B) F-16 and F-18 had earlier competed for USAF contract which F-16 won and later F-18 won the US Marines contract. So the designs are older. C) Eurofighter and Rafale began their designs together… Read more »
Anonymous
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Anonymous
5 years 1 month ago

If The IAF settles for a twin engined jet the Rafale is going to win but there is lot of diplomatic pressure from Washington for MMRCA It might be a split contract also with the Americans getting a share .F-16 IN Super Viper ???

SmestarZ
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5 years 1 month ago
The Airforce has clearly informed that they do not want F-16 since Pakistan is using it. F-18 is OK fighter but the matter of point is that F-22 and F-35 are being made to replace F-18 E/F which will be replaced .I think if US planes are selected by some chance, I think the Govt has good chance not to be eelcted for a few decades at least. C-130 J is old design yes but the production is still going on and it is being developed, and it is one of the best medium range transport. But in fact we… Read more »
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