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27 Comments on "Top 5 Myths Shattered By India’s MMRCA Knockout"

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5 years 27 days ago

very good analysis , very good blog
Reading older posts, you were right on the track

Anonymous
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5 years 27 days ago

Is the ability to drop bombs part of the RFP requirements? Judging by the way the British press is panning their Government's decision to induct Typhoons, I can't understand why the IAF has even shortlisted it!

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5 years 27 days ago

On Feb 20, 2011 you published "Could This Be The MMRCA Ranking? :)"

Two of the first three choices had ET as No 1 and Rafale as No 2 and one had Rafale as No 1 and ET as No 2.

Your information was spot on. Congratulations.

Why don't you now tell us who will win? 🙂

Anonymous
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Anonymous
5 years 27 days ago

any information about it ?
that look not realistic

note list for each aircraft

http://g2globalsolutions.com/review/?p=5608

Anonymous
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5 years 27 days ago

The Selection of Rafale and Typhoon was purely on merit. It is a coincidence that political considerations have been fulfilled with the success of these two aircraft. moreover the AESA radar of the rafale would be ready for integration from 2013 onwards.Rafale will win and the Navy's requirement would be met in near future.the four aircraft that have been eliminated must have fared badly in flight evaluation tests.

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Mr. Ra
5 years 27 days ago

It was an excellent decision by the concerned and a good analysis by you.

The poll has been vindicated.

If not Mig, then I support 126 Rafale and 77 EFT or vice versa depending on the prices.

Heberian
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Heberian
5 years 27 days ago

Very nice thought flow Shiv.

Anonymous
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Anonymous
5 years 27 days ago

The notion of "credible operational experience" on #3 is questionable. An old aircraft has indeed more experience than a more modern one…

Dinakar Peri
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5 years 27 days ago

@ to the above post: its the old and experienced pilot and not the pilot that counts… if old aircraft has more experience then we could have as well ordered more Mig-29's!!! Bottomline technology matters!

Shiv: well said and totally agree.. glad at the outcome and hope there are no spokes in the wheel at this stage and the deal gets concluded.

dexy
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5 years 27 days ago

What is the next step in this competition? And is there any time frame in which the competition should finish and the deal closed?

Anonymous
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5 years 26 days ago

Indian Media is the only one who making too much noise and thinking about USA and his next move. Here (Atlanta, USA) no one bother about the deal, everyone is saying good decision (read blogs on NYTimes, USAToday & Washington Post) and are definatly understanding indian merit clearly. Everyone agree that USA already got lot of deals so no need to be loude on one lost deal. Its clearly compitition, who perform well will definatly win.

Anonymous
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Anonymous
5 years 26 days ago

good one

Anonymous
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5 years 26 days ago

Shiva,

May be you all are reading too much between the line..

I think this is not the end or last of the Indian order or choice..

May be soon we have raptors .. if the situation and budgets so allow…

But Amirkhans have to do some friend gaining exercises as times have changed quite a lot..
I think their biggest minunes were the teens being with Pakies…

No way Indians will settle for Pakistani aircrafts… Poor uncle Sam..

Avinash
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Avinash
5 years 26 days ago

Like it man! keep them coming

Anonymous
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5 years 26 days ago
If you think this decision is apolitical, then you are mistaken. Fact is, India couldn't go for either Russian or American jets. Although officially cold war is over, the reality is quite different. If you check Russia Today's views on USA, then it's the same old story. Both US and Russia are important to India. Hence, awarding this contract to anyone of them would have led to antagonizing the other.India opting for the F414 engines is an indication that India is compensating USA for not selecting their jets. The US ambassador questioning India's or HAL's competence to build advanced jets… Read more »
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Maximus
5 years 26 days ago
An intelligent piece where you seem to have smartly made all the reasons why these two are bad choices look like faith redeemed. Here are a few questions from your own piece. One, so it wasnt really meant to be a medium weight aircraft with enough numbers and what we really needed was a heavy like Sukhoi. Why? Second, the Americans and Russians are out because they are Americans and Russians? Hmmm. Are we really thinking of the next 30 years living in an oasis of peace even as oil prices and the middle east heat up together. And sure,… Read more »
Anonymous
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Anonymous
5 years 26 days ago

Hilarious. I wonder in how many countries do they let the generals, admirals and air marshals do their own buying?

Maximus
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Maximus
5 years 26 days ago
Thanks Shiv for kindly responding. It would also be useful as a separate piece to look at what happens if the boys get their toys in terms of fleet composition. The LCA is no way close to delivering the replacement numbers needed for the MiGs getting phased out by 2017. Refurbishing the Mirages will cost us as much as buying new F-16s or Gripens. And we have a heavy head of Su-30s and EF/Rafale and no body and no tail. Its great to want these lovely machines but what kind of a fleet are you left with? It would be… Read more »
Bhavin
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5 years 26 days ago

just look forward, Knocked out are really loosers. Excellent decision by IAF.

Bhavin
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5 years 26 days ago

@Anonyms from Atlanta : absolutely true, brother.

captainjohann
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5 years 25 days ago
I think it is strategically thought out by the current IAF brass who felt strangulated by the conditions which US put on the purchase of C5 for the Avionics pod.The helicopters they sold to Navy and Trenton cost also had its lessons for IAF.Nobody can point finger at Antony also helped in IAF selecting a fighter which they felt comfortable though the Hawk purchase was a flop show.Every one knows typhoon is being phased out by RAF but , may be the cost will decide. Also there is a strong political message to Pakistan which felt Pro american Manmohan decides… Read more »
Anonymous
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Anonymous
5 years 25 days ago

You said "Cold Start Doctrine"??

That has been consigned into cold storage !!

Perhaps till we complete squardon strength, you mean.

Anonymous
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5 years 25 days ago

Eurofight has much ITAR commponent, you must require the approval of the United States for purchase of the typhoon or the spare parts, or usa missile,
Naturally, the United States can suspend this approval constantly, rafale does not have a component ITAR, it does not need to require the permission.

Anonymous
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5 years 25 days ago

@ maximus nice questions raised here couldn'd agree more
this is the case of what we want dominating what we need
we need a cheap light force multiplier which can get the job done with the help of heavier and more capable su-30 and i personally think gripen could have done the job

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5 years 22 days ago
Excellent article to which I would like to add my comments and views to the first three points or myths. 1) The IAF downselection is probably the most thorough, professional and scientific among the fighter competitions held in the past ten years. So congratulations to the Air Force for the objectivity and seriousness of their methodology. That shows a lot of respect for the competitors who have spent considerable energy and expected a fair process. Top scoring here for the IAF!On the other hand if the key drivers for the selection had been strategic and geo-political considerations, there was no… Read more »
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