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13 Comments on "Life Or Death For Indo-Russian Multirole Transport Aircraft"

VP
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VP
1 year 9 months ago

It's better to accept Airbus bid on Avro replacement,they are a reliable supplier and with Indian partner getting some tech the deal is a gr8 opportunity for India's aerospace sector,and MTA issues need to be sorted out,if MTA is cancelled the airforce can try to increase the Airbus order as production line will already exist in India and related cost will be less.

Krish
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Krish
1 year 9 months ago
Going by what you have reported, it looks like another Russian scam for Indian money. They want payment today to pump into their R&D while we wait a decade for the product, which comes with increased prices. Much better for India to augment its C-130J fleet. As it is, I read somewhere that Lockheed was willing to transfer the production line if India ordered more than 20. This is the right time for that. Go for 50-60 aircraft and be done with this capability. Waiting for MTA can be done while producing C-130J too. At least then IAF will have… Read more »
Gilberto Rezende-Rio Grande/RS
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I Know that Brazilian KC-390 is not a full alternative solution for MTA mainly because relationship between Embraer and Russia became impossible by the recent rejection of the company for a visit by Russian officials invited by Brazilian gov.
But if MTA rails off one option could be buy the Brazilian project to be adapted to India and Russia needs…
It will not be an easy talk but is still a possibility.
One detail, the Brazilian project has nothing to do with Airbus A-330, but uses the same engine of the Avro replacement contender…

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Anonymous
1 year 9 months ago

It may make more sense to use an existing aircraft for transport. Maybe a combination of .
Light C-295
Med : C-130
Heavy : C-17
Mid air refuelling/heavy AWACS : Airbus 330
Should suffice. C-295 & C-130 can be made in India, TATAs or Mahnidras, who have invested in Aviation.This way we can have reliable 2nd vendor in aviation.
Ideally to further institutional knowledge on aviation we need to have Design bureaus for Helicopter, Fighters/trainers and Transport.

Anonymous
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Anonymous
1 year 9 months ago

I think we would have been better off if we had invested in Brazilian KC-390, the plane is already flying.

Anonymous
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Anonymous
1 year 9 months ago

Tie up with European and American's are better. They are on time for delivery and provide high tech products. Boost desi manufacturing to argument component supply.

Jigga
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Jigga
1 year 9 months ago

Lockheed is willing to move the production line for a large order?That would be best to avoid Russian money grabbing again.

Where did you read this Krish? Is there a link?

The C17 Line is also closing this year in Southern California. Maybe its too much to hope for that production line to move to India.

BeasF137
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BeasF137
1 year 9 months ago

It is high time the IAF considered the KC-390 seriously. The specs are pretty close to the MTA.

If the IAF insists on the same specs, then a development costs will likely be a fraction of the cost associated with the MTA.

Anonymous
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Anonymous
1 year 9 months ago

Get the K-390 from Brazil and learn how to build an aircraft, balancing and levering one's own skill and skills of others.

Shame on HAL & GoI

Krish
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Krish
1 year 9 months ago
@Jigga http://zeenews.india.com/news/nation/iaf-to-replace-crashed-c-130j-medium-lift-aircraft_955475.html The above is the link which was widely reported by Economic Times, PTI and all. Lockheed wanted a deal for more than 40 aircraft to transfer manufacturing plant to India. India has already bought about 12 and there is enough scope for going for another 40. Don't forget that India used to have 65 units of An-12 in its fleet during 1960-1990s. An-12 was very similar to C-130J. So the requirement now is even larger. Mind you, half of C-130J i.e. (empennage, wing box) is already made by Tata so transfer of rest half will not be a… Read more »
Anonymous
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Anonymous
1 year 9 months ago

I donot think HAL or Govt (MoD) can deliver it, take it in writing

kaveri was waste of money, it will probably earn few millions to beurocrats

Sumit DasGupta
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1 year 9 months ago
Well, India seems to fall into this trap all the time where costs creep up and schedules slip out but she keeps paying up more and more. India (HAL) clearly does not know how to write contracts with the Russians or manage feature creep from the IAF. Time to hire a few of the top IIM grads and put them to work on project management. Also, payments to Russian counterparts should be post-facto, i.e., payments should be made when a job is finished,… and there should be a penalty clause for missed dates and functionality. This is not rocket science… Read more »
Anonymous
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Anonymous
1 year 3 months ago

We are tring to get companies to work here in India and do not want a monopoly… looks lik a world war is approaching and might get to our doors too…. evry big country on d wld trying to build new wepons and develop their military….all at the same time which is spooky…

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