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21 Comments on "Third Time Lucky? Five-way Indian Light Copter Contest Begins"

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1 year 9 months ago

Other than the Ka-226T and HAL-LUH (yet to materialize) none of the other contenders would meet the maximum operational altitude ceiling of around 15,000 Ft. I expect pretty much all others to drop out at some point once the RFP is announced.

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Anonymous
1 year 9 months ago
Going by the Trolls on this Site, Some future Predictions:- a) Three years hence this acquisition will still be in Limbo b) The very requirement of these aircraft will be questioned vigourously after calibrated leaks to hit the credibility of the evaluation processc) veiled and not so veiled comments Pro- DRDO HAL and anti- Services will start c) most comments will display that the commenter will not know his Arse from his elbow d) If god forbid HAL is selected as the Indian partner, a minimum of 20-30 crashes of HAL made aircraft will happen due to quality related issues,… Read more »
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Anonymous
1 year 9 months ago

Its already decided that HAL will win. Retender is just an eyewash.

Raahul Kumar
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1 year 9 months ago

I see no reason for all of these companies to be in the running. Just give it to HAL alone, no need for imports.

HAL has done a great job with helicopters, and now the only issue is to make sure that HAL cracks down on making the helicopter engine in Bharat instead of a joint venture with Turbomeca.

All of the parts of the helicopter must be made in desh, not videsh.

http://www.turbomeca.com/english/our-products/helicopter-engines/ardiden-47/ardiden-1h1-26.html

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Anonymous
1 year 9 months ago

The Americans will win, initial order will be 140 helicopters then HAL will start crying over this decision and then the MoD will order another 50 American helicopters and 200 HAL LUH. Then the IAF will resist this and say only one type of helo is needed and that the LUH will take a lot of time to be fully ready. This remind anyone of anything? -_-

Jean Luc Picard
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1 year 9 months ago
Per my understanding, the IAF, IA and IN are happy with the new ALH Druv. So i will not discount the HAL in this tender (of course they have a prototype performs and does all it claims) However, The real source of hesitation the Army and to the extent the air Force is not from the design or the prototype. The problem is HAL will make a great prototype, but when it goes to Manufacturing at various PSUs and ordnance factories for manufacture of sub components. the quality of components drop these PSUs need to be brought to task their… Read more »
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Anonymous
1 year 9 months ago

AS550 fennec is operated by Pakistan ? Will be interesting if it is selected.

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Anonymous
1 year 9 months ago
"Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar recently also took dig at Armed forces for coming up with Ridiculous General Staff Qualitative Requirement (GSQR) for indigenous weapons systems which he said seems right out of ” Marvel comic Movies “, clearly hinting that Technologies requested in Indigenous weapons systems sometimes purely is absurd and not realistic in nature . He also has told DRDO not to entertain any last minute changes in GSQR henceforward". Finally India has a defence minsiter who can stand up to the tantrums of the service chiefs and their lackeys. At the same time he won't hesitate to break… Read more »
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Hanonymous
1 year 9 months ago

There are two choices. As in life, one is easier than the other but the tough choice may lead to a much better place than the first choice.

we can push LUH all the way, or not.

It's that simple. Actually.

No machine was created perfect.

They were made better. Over time. And effort and attention.

That's the whole point. Should we push for LUH or not !

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Anonymous
1 year 9 months ago

When HAL is nearly ready with it's LUH, why all this tamasha?? Does "Make in India" mean screwing up "Made in India"? How will we gain capabilities and confidence if kickback addicted top brass and politicians do not support indigenous efforts??

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SK
1 year 9 months ago

@jean luc picard

Indian Navy's twin engine helicopter tender (buy and make) for 100 helos is worth USD $1.5 billion. This helo will be able to lift 6-7 people at max.

But GoI is purchasing HAL Dhruv at 7-8 million per unit. This helo can lift 10-12 people and has two engines as well.

Then, what is the reason for USD $ 15 million for a twin engine light naval helo? can anyone explain?

Thanks

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Anonymous
1 year 9 months ago
@ Anonymous 8:44The revered DRDO boss was also removed by selfsame RM. Dont forget. DRDO was warned openly by Shri Modi as well. Do not twist news unnecessarily to highlight your viewpoint and belittle others. Behave responsibly. Let bad GSQRS be rejected / sent back / Amended. This does not absolve DRDO PSUs from poor quality and delays, which they have been trying hard to project so as to avoid criticism. Its just a CYA exercise for the Bosses Remember Service cheifs have resigned in the Past, no DRDO chief or any level has ever taken responsibility for any failures… Read more »
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Anonymous
1 year 9 months ago

@ hanonymous 3:57
No.

Anonymous
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Anonymous
1 year 9 months ago

Order LUH, and get into a JV with the US for MV-22B Osprey as that is the way forward.

Abhiman
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Abhiman
1 year 9 months ago
The USAF does not invite global tenders, if indigenous products are available. Russian Air Force does not invite global tenders, if indigenous products are available. Israeli Air Force does not invite global tenders, if indigenous products are available. So, why does the IAF have to invite global tenders when an indigenous LUH is available ? This is near criminal behavior. Jean Luc Pickard, for once you've said something sensible. I've been saying this since a few years now. In fact, HAL is more of a manufacturer than an R&D organization, save for IJT Sitara and Dhruv. Tejas' production lines should… Read more »
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Anonymous
1 year 9 months ago

@Abhiman

Nation's defense cannot become a money making enterprise by shady businessmen. If they are interested to make money out of defense, they need to come up with their own stuff and enter into competition with MNCs and DPSUs.

And yes, it's abominable that we are looking for foreign stuff when cheaper indigenous products are available.

Hanonymous
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Hanonymous
1 year 9 months ago

@ Anonymous 6:58 pm.

No ?

No what ?

No luh ?

Anonymous
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Anonymous
1 year 9 months ago

I am surprised that people who do not know anything about HAL tries to defame it.Given the constraints put up by greedy armed forces HAL is doing an admirable job.

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Anonymous
1 year 9 months ago
I see utter insanity when India goes for foreign vendors. Why do they go in piece meal approach. The most efficient policy should be1) Get the consolidated requirements for helicopters transport/combat/utility from all 3 services2) List out technologies and also leverages from one platform to other platform. This way when we buy one platform and systems , some of it should be adapted to other platforms3) A case of this stupid policy when we procured pilatus trainer a/c. we should have identified vendor who can support us to transition basic trainer to ijt.Now we don't have ijt and goe to… Read more »
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satya
1 year 9 months ago
I see utter insanity when India goes for foreign vendors. Why do they go in piece meal approach. The most efficient policy should be1) Get the consolidated requirements for helicopters transport/combat/utility from all 3 services2) List out technologies and also leverages from one platform to other platform. This way when we buy one platform and systems , some of it should be adapted to other platforms3) A case of this stupid policy when we procured pilatus trainer a/c. we should have identified vendor who can support us to transition basic trainer to ijt.Now we don't have ijt and goe to… Read more »
Frank Sit
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1 year 8 months ago

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