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    Anonymous

    Does’nt bode well for the man who took the DRDO by horns to involve in petty fight with another colleague.

    Shiv..let accept the mistake wherever and whoever done it. If Chacko can be blamed for “tailoring the product” same can be levied on Shiv/Amitav combo for the express series. Dr. Aatre is spot on in saying the recent series(whether it is express or other media) doesnt talk about any success of DRDO and for the cynical attitude of the media agaist DRDO, he quoted an example of how ISRO was similarly targeted during SLV failure.(here, he indirectly mentioned that DRDO will be successful denying the sorry state painted by the media)

    In fact, i too share the same feeling of what Dr. Aatre expressed. Dont want to be an apologist but I can’t digest the aparthied acts carried out by the media including the express on DRDO.

    If Chacko can be blamed for saying only good things about DRDO, others should be blamed for concentrating only on the negative side.Let accept the mistake and move forward.

    Joe

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    Teews

    Joe, I can’t agree with you more here.

    I once said here that Chacko and Shiv among others are the different sides of the same coin. Only that they represent the extreme sides of that spectrum. The truth as they say lies in the middle somewhere. But people won’t bring it up because of their agendas.

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    rajan

    jo and teews, the express series had one part on drdo successes which if i remember correcelty covered npol and dare and mentioned a few others. a whole part dedicated to drdo successes. that definitely brought in the semblance of balance IMHO.

    rajan

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    Anonymous

    Aroor, what is shown by this is what a petulant prima donna b!tch that you can be. Chacko Joseph went ahead and conducted an interview with Atre which is free wheeling and comes out with a far greater level of detail than you have..unlike you, he has not tailored his questions only to criticize the DRDO..btw your IE colleagues know how you tailored the arjun piece and what u didnt publish

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    Shiv Aroor

    anon: so in that case, stop being a shitkicker, and come out and tell us all what was left out of the arjun report! be a piece in the jigsaw instead of being anon, idiot.

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    Abhiman

    Mr. Aroor it may be unfortunate that your blog invites abuses and obscene language from unwanted elements. I may suggest that you introduce moderation of posts, and disallow anonymous posts (as in Mr. Ajai Shukla’s blog). It is saddening to see such kind of posts in your informative blog.

    On another point, I too agree that I was unduly harsh in words on the IE which was your former employer. I duly feel apologetic for that. I admit that I got “carried away” by the site which I posted, but in no way was it meant to be an “attack” on you.

    Thanks.

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    Zero

    Queenie Aroor,

    Thats how an interview is conducted. Free wheeling.

    AMITAV RANJAN & SHIV AROOR combined couldn’t come out with such a master piece.

    Its a cool narration. IMO It has nothing to do with attacking any of the publications or Army or Air Force. It has to do with indeginisation.

    Kudos Chacko Joseph!Kudos Dr. Atre!

    May god bless you both!

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    Zero

    I did not have the chance to work with Dr. Atre, but as the whole DRDO knows it, he was/is a very conservatively spoken person.If he has come out hard on the issue, it must is a genuine thing.

    In some days time, when I join my lab back, I will be happy as atleast one of the DRDO personnel spoke defending us.

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    Anonymous

    rajan said…
    jo and teews, the express series had one part on drdo successes which if i remember correcelty covered npol and dare and mentioned a few others. a whole part dedicated to drdo successes. that definitely brought in the semblance of balance IMHO.

    rajan

    Is it Amitav Rajan? Nice to see u here.

    Success is a subjective term as well as relative one. I hope you agree with me.

    If none of Indian companies, be it ecconomically brimming IT companies ( still we dont have Microsoft/Oracle types even after so much success, leave alone the hardware section)or age old manufacturing ones like TATA are not comparable to western ones, how one can expect DRDO an Indian organisation to made equal to all the comparison made with western products and their success rates.

    In science, music or arts, when Indians aped the west; try to catch with them, how you except DRDO to be different.

    when a disabled person participated in the marathon competing with other able bodied person, this participation alone can be termed as success by any scale. Am i right?

    In that way, I should say DRDO willingness to take up the challenge to compete with the western counterparts in cutting edge technologies in Defence is a success compared to negative stand taken by Indian companies for the same project. And they achieved success even though delayed.

    The point is it is not that no one is willing to see the difficulties or the failures of the DRDO. Give context to the success we are discussing. When Railways, Air India/Indian Airlies, EB and other Gov Institutions were all incurring losses, being Indian, how you see the growth path of the DRDO. It has both success and failure. In fact i can vouch that the success in DRDO projects is more phenomenal comapred with the resources constraints, technology denials, sanctions etc it faced.

    What would be my expectation as a reader from a defence journ’s on this matter is a well balanced report, i.e. instead of passing comments like “Arjun is dud”, it should have given thorough analysis. But i should say the express series had started many introspective questions(in postive and negative way) both within the MoD/DRDO and the outside.

    Joe

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