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    Mihir

    I’m happy that the tamasha is finally over. The DRDO should now say .|.. to the Army when it asks for A/Cs for its “modern and futuristic” T-90s

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    Anonymous

    Probably, T tanks have some hidden capability which Army doesn’t want to be open.

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    Anonymous

    Yeah like it can fly supersonic and also be fully submerged. I can only pity the T90 crew when it enters the narrow alleys of Karachi facing ATGMs from all quarters. It would be “game over” for the tank even before it started. BTW, Shiv can you ask Lt. Gen Bharadwaj, If Arjun is not “futuristic” why not import some other western MBT like chaly/leopard/M1A2. Right now every country is dying to do business with us and rake in the moolah. Why this chai-biskoot seminar tamasha ?

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    Anonymous

    Looks like the Indian army is shamelessly corrupt. In full glare of the public eye, they have the cheek to refuse the Arjun MBT, even after the tank has proven itself at almost every test, and from what we hear, the end users, the soldiers themselves love the tank. And then the army talks about ‘izzat’? Izzat for the corrupt? And let’s not even get into what the IA has been up to in Africa.

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    Anonymous

    as if the army will be convinced by this stunt. waste of time if you ask me.

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    Rahul

    Ts have already shown their might in afghanistan(soviet invasion), OP Desert storm, OP Iraqi freedom by flying in air(in metal pieces).
    Gone are the days when MBTs were meant for desert/open area warfare. Urban is the new word for MBTs. Where a MBT may have to stand still for plus-24 hrs. As ‘Anti-Tank’ infantry weapons had shifted from cheap chinki RPGs to MP-ATGMs like spike. Death of a ‘T’ and its poor crew(packed as animals) will be a hit away!

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    Gaurab Arka Chaudhuri

    I think the Army Brass is being pressurised by the Russians to buy more T’s and hence this desperate attempt to discredit the Arjuns.
    I agree that the the T is a gr8 tank, but the Arjun is better.

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    Anonymous

    The Ts are great machines but they are riddled with inadequacies as the last few years have shown. overheating problems, range finger glitches, you name it. we should not jump to praise the Ts just because of their long op record. in an urban scenario, the arjun would still be far superior, considering troop comfort and protection. an mk2 of the arjun, if the army would ever allow it, would be one amazing tank. but who will give these chaps a chance i wonder.

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    Anonymous

    such a tragedy that the army will not buy more than 124. what the hell is 124 tanks? two regiments worth? it is embarassing and a real whack in the face of all the years and toil gone into making an indian tank. this is a sad day for indian defence modernisation. i agree with one of the previous commenters. someone has become rich endorsing further purchases from moscow. there can be no other explanation. regds, jcd

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    Anonymous

    There is at least one gentleman with qualification to pass the quality control of Arjun MBT, our own Col Shukla :mrgreen: .

    Mr. Shukla has become the new defender of DODO after having said this about Arjun;
    [quote]fundamental views of the Arjun’s flaws (posted on Bharat-Rakshak years ago) remain unchanged. Especially my views that:

    1.
    The tank suffers from a hybrid design where several major components have been bought off-the-shelf and slapped together into a tank.

    ]Has this changed today…??? It still is the mish mash of different pieces slapped together.
    2.
    The tank suffers from a high profile, high visibility, high vulnerability to helicopter, ATGM and tank attack from ranges beyond which it can pick up those enemies.

    Does it become low profiled today??
    3.
    The issue of translating a prototype into a production line remains beset with Quality Control problems.

    What did you saw between then and now???
    4.
    Strategic mobility remains a major problem for the Arjun.

    Oh now is it the flying tank Mr Shukla??
    5.
    If the tank does not perform well in trials, it should be shelved and categorised a technology demonstrator, rather than shoved down the throats of the army.
    This is exactly the Army has consistantly saying– Arjun is not performing well in trials, not that it denying that a rookie can hit the target

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    Anonymous

    Why have you mentioned ‘exclusive’ at the top, Shiv? Didn’t all the newspapers also carry this story recently !

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    Anonymous

    It is the attitude that worries me. Instead of working in tandem with DRDO, they tend to wait till the product is done, then call is troublesome or delayed.

    Foreign companies may also be behind the scenes, bribing the army to keep indigenous efforts out. I would suggest a through CBI probe into the assets of these army top brass.

    Third party evaluation wont make a difference(Even if Arjun proves to be much better) because you can never force a customer. In this case, customer IS literally God – he is saving a billion lives standing on the border.

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    Anonymous

    It’s okay to build a cut-and-paste weapons system. It’s only the end product that matters. In other words, so what if Arjun is a cut and paste of systems from here and there? (Indian armor, German engine, French FCS) If you do it properly, the end product can still be very good. Isn’t this what the Navy has been doing for many years, engineering large ships based on off-the-shelf items brought from different countries? You start there, then you attempt to replace all foreign components with Indian ones…

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    Anonymous

    The arjun is a survivable tank with good firepower. In philosophy it is akin to the centurion tank that saved India’s bacon in ’65 and ’71 wars. India had only 4 regiments of centurions but they sufficed. It could take punishment , good gunnery, accurate and good ammunition penetration. come on folks wake up!!!! The army of the plains and desert will be more enabled with ‘The Arjun’. If the Arjun is at 60 tons the Centurion at 56 tons was not far behind and no one complained about mobility!! The objections to the Arjun are inane and unprofessional (and amusing). The gentleman may not have sat on a tank long enough to learn his beans about tank warfare. Is SOMEONE out there listening and watching out for our collective wellbeing????

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