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    Eric jose , delhi

    why does India exhibit the most latest and lethal weapons(in this case the Su30 MKI’s) in these exercises when America doesn’t even show a glimpse of what they have outside their country(in war exercises) like the f-22’s( don’t say that they did on the Farnborough air show, they didn’t fly against other aircraft)or dont show their capablities atleast in front of countries like india.
    the very motive of these exercises is to learn new combat tactics and also inter- compatibility(just imagine India and America fighting a common enemy!) -which could have been achieved even if India sends the mirages or some ground attack aircraft (as this in this very exercise sukhoi was to play that role).
    why are we giving other countries a chance to know what our strengths are and what are our weaknesses? .(remember the ancient SAMs destroying a stealth F-117 aircraft-Kosovo conflict)
    ’cause once our opponent knows that the game’s over as the difference between any two modern air force at war would be the tactics and the endurance of the crew as the equpment will always be at the cutting edge of techonology
    in the past airforce personnel have refused to perform certain things in joint exercises (cant remember what exactly it was , it was something considering the radar of the sukhois) these incidents dont come to light as they are bound with their code of conduct.
    and yeah the top bosses always sing praises of the airforce though they dont realise that our aircrafts( su 30’s) are pitted against mediocre aircrafts like ( f 16 and f 15) whereas the sukhois are among the best in the world and are destined to win….if the purpose is training why dont they send the downgraded Su 30 Mk with the same crew.
    and then the question comes why are other new aircraft like the rafael is shown, remember its a marketing strategy to catch india’s and other countries attention.
    any day it sounds good when a mig 21 BIS wins a dog fight against f 15(cope india), we can show our strenght through these aircrafts also(though they cant travel long in this case 🙁 , probably though , but mirages and jaguars can…)
    w

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    Anonymous

    Reason Americans are shielding the F22 is keep its image as the worlds best. They can not take a chance on that claim.. as long as you dont fight, you dont lose and you are the best!

    Are the hangers where we put the MKIs locked up all times? Hope India puts in place proper security around her assets.

    After all, another cold war is in the making between US and Russia. Anything learnt about the latest Sukhois is of immense value.

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    Anonymous

    paranoid sensibilities apart, it is definitely true that the us would like to know more about the flankers and will be looking to get any data it can possible record about our planes. i’m surprised the russians haven’t raised any objections just yet!

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    Aditya

    eric:

    There is not much the US does not know about the Sukhoi. What they do not know – radar signature – the IAF has taken care to shield (removing certain modules, using only basic modes.

    Secondly, the USAF and IAF are not going to fight against each other in the near future. However, we will fight alongside each other. The Sukhoi, as you know, can be used for ground attack so it will be involved in most operations of ours. On the other hand the USAF cannot use its Raptors in Iraq or Afghanistan. So they don’t need to train with ground pounders.

    The F-16s and F-15s are inferior aircraft, sure. But the USAF doesn’t fight aircraft v/s aircraft, they fight with their entire system – AWACS, J-STARS, ELINT birds. so training against them will be hard work for our guys.

    The Sukhoi Su-30K/MKs have been returned to Russia – they will be replaced with fresh MKIs. We’re sending the MKIs because in ten years from now our force is going to revolve around them. Half our Jaguars will be obsolete then, as will all our Mirages (20 and growing older).

    And the Bison did not beat the Eagle in a dogfight. Surprised them with a pop-up shot, yes. 🙂

    Anonymous @ 8:29 – well, they’ve already seen them at Cope India; and no doubt the Brits will share whatever they learnt at Indradhanush…

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    Anonymous

    these indians need to stop taking our products to USA and expose its weakness to them!!

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    Radman

    aditya,

    your analysis is spot on. there is very little the usaf does not already know about the sukhoi. the us battle management plan is never a one on one confrontation. it is a total “package” operation. there is no country that can take on the us in a conventional battle.

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    Radman

    aditya,

    your analysis is spot on. there is very little the usaf does not already know about the sukhoi. the us battle management plan is never a one on one confrontation. it is a total “package” operation. there is no country that can take on the us in a conventional battle.

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    Anonymous

    i hear IAF stripped down the sukhois. For example the multi target tracking radar on the sukhois has been left home in india.

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    Anonymous

    shiv, many of us really appreciate the work you are doing. it is a true pleasure to log onto this blog daily to see the new posts. we especially enjoy the hard work you put in by getting these wonderful awe inspiring photos for us. it is a great service you are doing and is an inspiration to one and all. we hope you will keep up the great job. akhilesh (kanpur)

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    bloggerhead

    hey shiv
    just chanced on your blog.. good to see you write again. Though the tenor is kind of different.
    Cheers,
    P

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    Anonymous

    why is the color near the gun of MKI a lighter shade than the rest of the aircraft?

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    Aditya

    anonymous @ 4:45

    Hot exhaust gases from the muzzle cause the paint to wear out. As such the IAF only keeps the protective coating and not the camo colour.

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