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    Anonymous

    Why can't we get more Scorpenes which are formidable submarines? I'll tell you why: the more "contracts" signed, the greater the opportunity to loot the taxpayer and collect bribes.

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    Anonymous

    I hear the S1000 has a much juicier config than the Amur. And they both take plenty either way from the beautiful kilo, so there's nothing to worry about. Baby is silent at 5 kts. Absolutely silent.

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    Anonymous

    excellent report. keep it coming.

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    Anonymous

    It will be anyday better than amur. plus italians are providing consultancy on ADS project also if i am not mistaken.

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    Anonymous

    So, Is Madame Sonia's role is in the cards??

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    Anonymous

    Type 214 takes any meaningful advanced technologies from the Type 212/212A of which it is an export derivative.
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    well this is true,type214 is just type1500 with AIP

    and the same IPMS which type214 has going into our type209 so if type209 is fitted with AIP new sonars and other sensors it becomes type214

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    Anonymous

    Where are the Pakis getting the money to buy German submarines to use against us? Oh I forgot, from our BFF USA.

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    Ju²

    S1000 is a virtually interesting small sub made to protect coasts or do missions no very far from their base. According Fincantieri officials, the Italian Navy has not invested any Euro on it so far.
    It is a purelly export product waiting for a foreign partner to be launched.
    There is someting I do not understand. Why do not wait for "Mesma-ized" Scorpenes (the 3 last subs of the batch of 6) before taking another option, if ever the Navy is not happy with it? Don't you think it is better to have a harmonized fleet instead of a patchwork? It looks like pure greed.
    Ok, the German AIP is sexy. No doubt. But except theory and fantasm, what are its real records?

    Thanks Shiv for making the S1000 get out from the dark. It has been a long time we have not heard anything about it. Do you have some fresh inputs from Fincantieri?

    Just for precision: the U-214 is indeed an export version of the U-212 which is totally unexportable given its price. It is nearly €1 billion, i.e. the price of a Horizonte destroyer.

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    Anonymous

    It will be anyday better than amur. plus italians are providing consultancy on ADS project also if i am not mistaken.
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    how its better than amur,infact italy itself buy from germany and never build or designed submarine before

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    Anonymous

    The subs must come with a minimum of 8 Brahmos missiles otherwise it's going to be a sub without teeth.

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    Harpreet

    Very informative indeed. But why the navy needs two very similar sub types. ie Scorpene and S1000.
    I think in keeping with our expanding blue water capability we need to go for a bigger boat like S80 or still better the Vidar-36 from BMT

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    NJS

    S-1000 seems to so small in size & capable . Pak will get 3 nos sub's from germany , india need to get more powerful then this .To handle Agni-3 sub version s-1000 is not suitable . Navy should select Amur 1650 for better performance . We need to compare with both china/pak before selecting weapons , Govt need to select sub's in fastrack , before pakis places order to germany.

    For self reliance in manufacturing india need to produce sub's in Joint Project with other countries .

    The Sanctions against some abroad manufactures should be withdrawn with waring .

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    P Mukherjee

    Pointless going for the S1000 which despite its attractive features is nothing more than a small coastal defence sub with limited range. Better to go for the Amur with modifications that suits the IN. I am sure the Russians will oblige.

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    Anonymous

    Why are we buying stuff from mafia don's, Did we not have enough with Quattorachi in Bofors deal – Our madam's uncle

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