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    sniperz11

    It would be great if you can come up with more articles about this Shiv. I think you can divert some of the barbs and bile from DRDO to GoI this time.

    Arty is far more important than any missile system, and its disgusting that the government is willing to destroy our military preparedness just to save their own skins. disgusting vermin!

    Unfortunately, i doubt that you’ll ever do a story on this like you did about DRDO. I wonder why.

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    Shiv Aroor

    sniperz: yes, this subject definitely needs more work. the government/MoD/armed forces should definitely be exposed for their own diseases. if and when i come across information, rest assured i wont think twice about reporting it. when you say you “wonder why”, in a strange way i understand. the default notion about the drdo series remains that it was biased, one-sided and motivated. speaking for myself, i can tell you that i have no biases against anything. i depend on figures, documents, data. clearly the government and armed forces need to be investigated in matters pertaining to defence. and if you’ve ever read the full body of stories i’ve done for the express before (and after) the now eponymous drdo series, you’ll know that i hold no quarter. the government and the armed forces aren’t my friends to protect or not report on. and yes, neither is drdo.

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  3. 3

    Prashanth

    I read elesewhere that the Soltam gun broke down in the desert? And it isn’t the original “Bofors” anymore, is it?

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    Shiv Aroor

    prashanth: yes, the soltam gun did break down during the 2005 and 2006 desert trials during sustained firing. and yes, it isn’t the original bofors in terms of the owners. In the late 1980-ies, Nobel Industries was split up. The Swedish Government, through its wholly owned company Celsius AB took over the defence business. The rest was merged with a Dutch company Akzo Nobel, which remained the contractual counterpart to GOI for the 1986 contract (and thereafter, the scam we know so well). However, as a consequence of the MOU, Celsius agreed with Akzo Nobel to fulfil any requirements from GOI related to the weapon system itself. In 2000, the Celsius group was sold by GOS to SAAB AB, which in turn sold the Weapon Systems Division to United Defense, an American company. In 2005 United Defense was bought by BAE Systems. BAE Systems SWS Defence AB is the subsidiary with the task to handle the business in India, and BAE Systems is today the design authority and the owner of the FH77 artillery technology.

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    Anonymous

    It has been around 8 years since kargil and our politicans will never understand that it was Bofors that saved the day.
    They ended up banning Denel whose gun,probably the most power atillery gun in the world,was to be on the Arjun chasis. What a bloody shame. We lost such a good weapon system.

    Shiv,any news on SPH front. Not that I expect heart warming stuff,but wonder what is IA doing.

    Regards

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  6. 6

    Anonymous

    How abt filing PIL questioning GoI decision ?

    Joe

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  7. 7

    sniperz11

    It will be thrown out-

    1. Matter is still under consideration.

    2. Trials are still on

    3. Defence matters, ‘official secrets’, ‘state secrets’ excuses can be easily made.

    Ultimately, all the MoD will have to do is stonewall any trial or investigation, and the babus can make the litigant run from pillar to post for information. after all, a PIL is nojoke. you need to have solid grounds to file one , not just newspaper reports.

    And even if it goes to trial, all the Army and ministry have to do is to give some excuse, which the court will have to believe.

    We can try though.

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    Shiv Aroor

    [email protected]:52AM: the SPH gun deal has already been re-tendered, with RfPs to be sent out. the deal was almost through for denel, for its 155-mm wheeled 52-cal gun, but this obviously got scrapped with the company was blackballed in 2005. the new competitors include the soltam wheeled gun, the bofors archer and a few others. that should take a while too.

    Joe: Sniperz is right, a PIL would be discarded instanteously. But might be worth a try!

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    Anonymous

    thanks Sniper/Shiv for the comments. Why i asked this is, i couldnt remember seen any PIL against defense matter, but lot on other GoI decision.

    Did Outlook, Hindu who had somekind of evidence against defence dealings can file PIL ?

    On US India nuclear deal, a scientist filed PIL recently. This was taken for consideration. Wht abt Right to Information act ?

    Joe

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    sniperz11

    Defence & Intelligence matters are out of purview of the RTI act.

    The US-India deal is ‘civilian’ in nature, and to characterize it as a military issue, will cause some heat, which is probably why it was considered. However, I doubt any sensitive info would have been allowed for release.

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