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    Anonymous

    Pre-election period is probably the most promising time get problems and proposals granted by the government. But the government seems to be juggling the NSG approval, bribery allegations,serial blasts by SIMI, clashes in Kashmir, and ceasefire violation by Pakistan – most eventful 3 months in last 5 years

    These folks who dont ask a question, never disobey an order, ready to sacrifice their lives for our safety….. morally we are obliged to fulfill their demands. Thanks to the media, the whole world knows how f*cked up our political system is.

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    Anonymous

    There is a major problem in the Pay Commission Implementation. Director Level of the IAS on completion of the 12th year (100% make the grade), and other civilian officers in the 13th year have been elevated to the highest Pay Band 4. However, Defence Officers have been denied the same after 13 years of service unless they are promoted to Colonel rank (Only 30% are selected after many more years). Thus, Service beyond this point is unattractive for Lt Cols as they do not reach Pay Band 4 despite putting in more than 13 years of service. Even, if Military service pay is given the defence officers draw about Rs 7500 to Rs 8000 less than his civilian counterparts including the paramilitary forces. Hence, para military forces are more attractive than defence forces post Independence Day.

    Incidentally, after the 15th year Pay Band 4 is available to Para Military Forces, namely Commandants of ITBP, CRPF, Coast Guard etc. Currently Commandant’s rank is equated with Lt Cols, but Commandants draw lesser pay than Lt Cols.

    As on 15 Aug 2008, IAS directors were drawing Rs 15100 on Promotion. Non IAS Directors, Addl Commissioners, including Commandants etc draw Rs 14300 at the bottom of the scale. The starting salary for Lt Cols is Rs 15100 (which includes rank pay, but remember rank pay was carved out of basic pay and it is basic pay for all purposes) as on 15 Aug 2008. Sadly, Independence Day was chosen by the Committee of Secretaries to erode the defence forces, the very persons who stand for the nation’s independence.

    Strangely, Sri Krishna Commission had recommended Rs 26280 for the IAS directors drawing Rs 15100. The same amount viz Rs 26280 was recommended for Lt Cols drawing Rs 15100. What has changed now? Post independence day, the Lt Cols are in Pay Band 3 and draw Rs 14000 less than the civilians in Pay band 4. Even if Rs 6000 Military Service Pay is given the services are no longer attractive. Rs 26280 recommended by Sri Krishna Commission, if so differently calculated and applied for the two types of officers, means that the sixth pay commission report itself is flawed and has to be junked. Else these figures should be the same. No wonder the defence forces who have made every sacrifice are cut up.

    Another component is the grade pay. While logic says both should get the same grade pay it is not so. The civilians draw a higher grade pay!!!!

    Hence two officers drawing the same basic pay viz Rs 15100 on 15 Aug 08 would draw grossly different salaries. This is a sad day for the nation.

    Ideally, the ‘Pay in pay band plus grade pay’ for IAS directors and Lt Cols should be exactly the same. Will the government rise above petty interests of a certain section!!!! This is a great problem area for the nation.

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    test

    The letter just proves that the chicanery of the services brass knows no bounds! As if the good Admiral doesn’t know that service conditions of persons even within the armed forces are as different as they are on the civilian side and that to concede the demand would imply having not one Pay Commission but perhaps thousands as the doctors in MCD Hospitals would say that their conditions are different than those working in AIIMS.

    Time somebody told them!!

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    Anonymous

    If one has to catch a thief who is escaping after a burglery in the colony, Ask MOTHERS, how many of them would allow their SONS to go and nab him.
    I as a soldier GIVE MY LIFE on ONE ORDER from a SENIOR who is no way related to me, who does not even speak my language, who doesnot like the food I eat, who does not share a single thing.
    THIS IS ARMED FORCES,
    THIS IS ME
    THIS IS A PERSON WHO MIGHT NOT BE ALIVE TO SEE THIS ON NET .
    Pray for me and others who SERVE AND GUARD SO THAT YOU ALL CAN HAVE A PEACEFUL NIGHT TO SLEEP.

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    Karuna

    Dear All, 18 December 2008
    On behalf of ex-Servicemen (ESM) the one letter written by shri.Arun Prakash, Ex-chief of naval staff to PM is more than sufficient to press the needs of ESM.
    Regards
    A.karunakaran, Ex.Indian Navy
    Author and Founder,
    Childcare Consortium,
    Plot no 79, 6 th street, Ramapuram, Chennai 600 089, India,
    Tel: 91 44 22493365

    “This NGO is in Special Consultative Status with the Economic and Social Council of the United Nations”

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