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    @singam – Very interesting analysis. Given the nature of doing something like this for the first time, I can understand the apprehensions and nervousness. Ski-jump take-off data inputs from the plane also give ADA a bigger envelope to work with.

    Even though these are small steps, but the valve on what is being learnt is immense.

    Shiv, very informative article and great insight. Thank you for putting this together and sharing the same.

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    Is the weapons carrying ability of this aircraft comparable to international standards ?

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      Do you talk the way you empty your bowels

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    Several question:

    Are you sure that 21.6 is AoA and not pitch? At ramp exit and following it, the plane has a positive climb. In such a condition pitch ~= AoA + climb/horizontal-speed.

    Also I'm not sure that surprise in 1st ski-jump testing is "good thing" because it means that simulations that were performed aren't good.

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    With all the twists and turns of the intriguing pot-boiler thriller, it would not be a wild assertion that the Naval version of the LCA may end up being a run away success ! Heck in its MK-II avatar, it might see deployment from a carrier deck before the IAF's version, attributable to the fact that the Indian Navy has always been a more engaged and involved partner in its development.
    Contrast that to the knuckle headed, frat-boyish approach of the IAF which never believed nor wanted to be party to an indigenous fighter development program.
    It would therefore be befitting for the MoD to whip the IAF frat boys into shape by cancelling the MMRCA RFP and make them swallow humble pie and drag them by their ears to the table and re-engage on the LCA MK-II project like never before !

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    Anon @ 2:11, please don't display your amateur wannabe status to such a ridiculous extent on this forum.
    The work on the Tejas is a team effort, and both the IAF and the Navy (the actual services, not the Jingo assumptions of these entities) are both heavily committed to the project.
    The IAF has placed an order for 40 aeroplanes, and wants a product that works as advertised in order to meet their responsibilites to the nation. Please do not trivialise the efforts of ADA, HAL, the IAF and the IN by letting fly with ignorant rants about how things work in D&D of major weapon systems.
    In conclusion, you of course have the right to be as much of an armchair enthusiast in this and other fora as you wish, but you only display your immaturity with your comments. Unless you put your money where your mouth is, i.e. sign up and put yourself in harms way, you would be well advised not to be so quick to insult those who are actually putting their lives on the line.

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    Will try to answer the queries / comments:
    1. It certainly has been a tremendous input giving the design teams a wealth of information and confidence for further activity
    2. 21.6 is AoA and not Theta. We had done tests up to 23 AoA as part of lead up tests

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    Folks ,

    Good news is always welcome . But we already have enough Mig 29's in the navy . What is the LCA's role except that of a supporting actor ? Navy is for the sea – so instead of diverting our attention from lack of submarines and advanced boats the Navy should go all out for submarines with a single minded purpose . Our neighbours realised this long ago and have concentrated on steadily upgrading their fleets . Indian Navy , like the airforce , might soon become more of a coast guard than an effective blue water force . This is not a rant but my two bit in respect of the tragedy unfolding before our eyes.

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    Thanks for the info I wish the stealth and endurance could be increased in MK2 for IAF and Navy and the inlet needs to be redesigned in order to help the F414 and also keep the the aircraft stealthy just like Rafael

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    ANON @ 4:28 PM
    Boy did that touch a sensitive nerve just I had hoped it would ! Listen, every pragmatist knows this well enough
    as much as you do, that the time has come to rid of the sacred cows in the Indian defence establishment if we are are to move forward and bring about an a measurable improvement in our indigenous capabilities to plan, design, develop and deliver systems. That includes reforming the way ADA, DRDO & HAL operates. In the same breath it also calls for a massive realignment in the way the service arms plan, strategize and operate.
    Just because someone chooses to put their life on the line by enrolling in the services does not give that person more say in the matter. There are people in this country that are contributing in equal measure in their respective spheres of expertise. It doesn't make their efforts any better or less significant. You consider yourself an expert, but a blogger does not make an expert.
    I have great faith in the new MoD. He is no-nonsense guy who stands ready to strip every sacred cow there is in the current Indian defence establishment, naked, if that's what is needed to drive and deliver systemic and long-lasting change.

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    Ajai Shukla

    Very interesting piece, Shiv! Thanks, Ajai Shukla


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