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17 Comments on "The IAF’s Big Snipe At HAL"

Anonymous
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Anonymous
3 years 10 months ago

funny seeing… pc-7 mkII… anchored… at both wing tips…

Anonymous
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Anonymous
3 years 10 months ago

The answer might be simpler; you're paranoid.

Anonymous
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Anonymous
3 years 10 months ago

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Nonsense …
HAL deserves what it got …
Even that is too kind …
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Anonymous
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Anonymous
3 years 10 months ago

may be u did not get your propaganda money from swiss

Anonymous
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Anonymous
3 years 10 months ago

The IAF jokers at senior level do not realise that later generations will laugh at their antics. I still believe that all indigenous systems should be given to another force which has to be created afresh. The existing fellows should retire along with their imported machines.

Hrishikesh
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3 years 10 months ago
Sad indeed. I am not a fan of HAL but at the same time failure of HPT is failure of IAF too. IAF should learn from complex tech projects executed by tech firms. Failed projects are as much a responsibility of vendor as they are of the consumer. More complex the technology the more it is true. IAF is not biting HAL, it is the nation getting bitten. IAF is not serving any purpose by constant bickering with defence agencies. To be fair, we only get to hear the views of all non HAL entities. Was reading somewhere about IJT… Read more »
the terminator
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the terminator
3 years 10 months ago
Why are you so pissed off with the IAF? Their decision to display their basic trainer acquisition is just to show the HAL wallahs how mediocre they are that they can't even come up with a good basic trainer after being in existence for donkey years as the numero uno agency for aircraft research, development and production in India. Where tiny countries such as Switzerland could produce a state of the art trainer aircraft, these dumbos are still showcasing a mockup of the HTT-40. Their lackadaisical attitude and penchant for gloating over their monopoly of assembling CKD packages of Russian… Read more »
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Anonymous
3 years 10 months ago

HAL is a useless organization, its time Private sector should be preferred for indigenous development project…All HAL is interested is in Build to Print Jobs…any thing related to R&D does not make their Balance sheets look good…They neglected LCA for so many years…IJT is a testimony to their Lack of Technical Acumen…Time for Govt. to snub HAL and give contracts to companies like TATA, L&T, Mahindra, Godrej…

Kana
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Kana
3 years 10 months ago

why not show the pilatus?
because it implies a shameful failure?
that's not pilatus' fault.
it's a fine plane in IAF service.
subjugating even airshows to political considerations doesn't achieve anything substantial.
everybody and every country has failures, admitting them shouldn't be a problem. learning from them so that failure can be productively integrated into future endeavors is the challenge.

Rahul
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Rahul
3 years 10 months ago

Biggest blunder was to not persue development of HTT-35 after that it was nothing but taxpayers sweet and blood at disposal.

Paradox at bream: Homegrown Fifth gen concept, 2000 plus flight logged 4th gen on flying display, Armed copter which could go never before heights and imported WW2 air frame with modern goodies….what a sight!

Anonymous
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Anonymous
3 years 10 months ago
All those who want to bash the IAF should think about these. The IAF is the HAL's biggest customer and pays really big money, but has absolutely no say in HAL functioning, program management or even timeline management of those products that it pays through it's nose for. Further, HAL can get away with years of delay in deliveries which the IAF not only has to suffer but also wonder of wonders held accountable for. To resolve the issue IAF proposed that a serving three star officer head the HAL and then there would be true integration and cooperation but… Read more »
Anonymous
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Anonymous
3 years 10 months ago
The fault is more on part of management,leadership,lack of vision and inconsistent policies.We seem almost schizoid in our achievements.While we can develop and produce some of the most advanced satellites,launchers,naval vessels we have faltered on very basic items like primary trainers and quality small arms.Somehow we have never garnered our ample resources in certain areas.One cannot blame the IAF as of all the services,they require the most reliable and safe systems.Military aviation is not very tolerant of mistakes and design faults.We have to synergies all assets available in India be it private or public.Above all good leadership and consistent policy… Read more »
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Anonymous
3 years 10 months ago

A lot of advanced countries do not make their own basic trainers. Sometimes, its just cheaper to buy it off the shelf. No need to invent everything in India. HTT-40 shows HAL can build it, but it cannot sell it as cheaply as Pilatus and the MoD did the right thing by canceling the project.

Cujo

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Anonymous
3 years 10 months ago
Yes..The IAF wanted to display..how it kept HALs proposal pending for developing a basic trainer right from 1986, then in 1995, 2003 and then 2009.How it managed to buy a 550 SHP engine aircraft which can never be weaponised like all Light Attack Aircrafts world over…and how the swiss denied it sating this will be used in Anti Humanitarian ops like Kashmir and North east…How it managed to not quote the MTOT and then get rid of the Korean objections and also how it tied HALs hand, legs and eyes tied and asks it to fight the exit clause..To show… Read more »
Anonymous
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Anonymous
3 years 10 months ago

Ok, 75 PC-7 were emergency imports. No more should be allowed. HTT-40 needs to thrust down IAF's throat, why just have firangi airplane, we can go whole hog and get a firangi air-chief too.Am sure will be better than the present loud mouth

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nikdash
3 years 10 months ago

Isn't it enough to give Swiss banks so much black money and then add this on top??
IAF needs to be a good shepherd and behave like the Pentagon. Come up with requirements, find local partners to develop prototypes and then buy it.

The Swiss are screwing Indians a million times over everyday with their banking rules. They kill ten fold more Indians than Pakistan has in all wars combined. Hunger is a great weapon!

Kana
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Kana
3 years 10 months ago
it does seem like a good idea to compare import prices vs. indigenous prices by consider the amount of money that indigenous purchases will recycle back into the economy, and thus government budget, as compared to imports (where spending in foreign economies is much less cycled back into indian economy, although this would vary depending on the foreign country in question). that isn't even discriminating between one or the other, it is looking at the actual effects on government finances, which is what mere price comparisons are meant to do, this does the same but in a more accurate comprehensive… Read more »
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