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    Anand

    I understand that the SRAAM chosen for the Tejas Mk.1/Mk.1A needs to be integrated with the HMDS, i.e. with the TARGO HMDS from ELBIT Systems. ASRAAM isn’t compatible with TARGO & ASRAAM can be used only with the BAE Systems-developed HMDS. That’s the reason why the IAF & IN had specified Python-5 for the Tejas Mk.1/Mk.1A & the LCA (Navy) Mk.1.

    Also, neither HAL nor the IAF issued any RFI/RFP for any new HMDS for the Tejas Mk.1A, which means the TARGO HMDS is now standard fit for the Tejas Mk.1A.

    Similiar is the case with the HAL/BAE Systems-developed Combat Hawk too, that has TARGO HMDS from ELBIT Systems.

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    1. 1.1

      Saptarshi Dasgupta

      Rafale for IAF will have Targo but its primary Close Combat missile is the MICA IR, Mig-29k has TopOwl and its CC missile is R-73 . Australian F-18 Hornets have JHMCS but its CCM is ASRAAM. So CCM is not dependent on HMD. HMD is a cockpit equipment. Issues Python-5 is facing is that it is heavier, has more control surfaces for Tejas’s small pylons and after ASRAAM, METEOR and MICA deal MBDA is getting hungrier. You never know IAF might have asked for tech transfer for Meteor so they might be dangling ASRAAM carrots and whatever stuff they have.

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        Anand

        HMD is required for off-boresight launch of CCM. That’s why it’s compatibility with CCM is important. As Targo is imcompatible with ASRAAM, this will never happen. Go ask IAF & DRDO about this !

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        Anand

        Just checked with a person in IAT dealing with armaments. As per him, the only problem with Python-5 was structural integration, i.e. the AAM’s ADA-designed pylons need aerodynamic refinement at the front-end. As per him, if we were to closely examine all the underwing pylons of the Tejas Mk.1, we would easily conclude that they were designed at best for subsonic flight! However, ADA is still going round in circle, not accepting practical feedback from persons who do it on daily basis!

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    Indoaryan

    Arming the Hawk trainer fleet with the ASRAAM and Brimstone is a wrong move, as Hawk is ” trainer ” not a battle proven aircraft. When we start fighting air battles with trainers consider the battle lost. They will be shot out of the air by Paki F16s without any hassle.

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    1. 2.1

      Abhiman

      IAF is such that it will arm fighter jets made from the morning newspaper, and send pilots in them to fight…………………….but NOT the Tejas. Why? Because there is inherent disdain for anything indigenous.

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    2. 2.2

      Shreyansh Rattra

      Sir these jets will be armed primarily for C-i-AS missions, and probably for some secondary areas as a point defense fighter.Every country has such platforms.

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    Vijay

    It is intriguing as to why IAF wants only foreign equipment. They seem like anti India rather than promoting long term security of India

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      Biplab

      Tejas was cleared trail with R-73 CCM. But due to cost issue , now we are experimenting with new Python-5 missile and facing issue. It is stupidity. Tejas project is already delayed and it will delay again. Sometime Time is costlier than money itself. Now in case of Tejas Time is money.

      We should induct 40-60 tejas with R-73 CCM even it is costly option. It will reduce the time to get FOC. When these 40-60 Tejas will product we can experiment with Python-5.

      It seems like IT service companies strategy. Drag the project time and get billing from client.

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