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    The 2035 timeline is setting it for another LCA type exercise. When the big boys will be inducting un-manned combat jets, will IAF give priority to inducting AMCA?

    In 2030-35 our GDP will. 3-4 the size of today and irrespective if we are in the US or Chinese or Russian camp, the latest and greatest will be on offer for IAF from these countries.

    Who wouldn’t want a big piece of Indian 2035 defence budget?

    If you want to deliver in 2035, why no leapfrop. Atleast delays will not hurt.

    I am predicting IAF will loose interest in AMCA in the nest 5 years. If they had any, they would force ADA to roll out a prototype by now.

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    bhaskar teja

    First flight in 2030 is too late. In 2035, F35 will be available at optimal price and will be dumped on us or even Rafael will be. As part of recent new fighter deal, we should upgrade our aerospace infra and adopt faster prototyping techniques as part of offsets.

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    First, not fest. Understandable since you must be really busy. Thanks for the lovely coverage.

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    The aged designers of this project will be dead by the time it was told to be produced or Inducted…So probably it was job saving , safe retirement , timely delayed intention perhaps…By senior Members.. Sorry if my words hurt anyone…But the intended delay seems so to most of the young talents in India..

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    The aged designers of this amca project will be dead by the time it was told to be produced or Inducted…So probably it was job saving , safe retirement , timely delayed intention perhaps…By senior Members.. Sorry if my words hurt anyone…But the intended delay seems so to most of the young talents in India..

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    it is irrelevant whether AMCA flies in 2025 or 2030. in asia, even chinese wont be able to field their stealthy fighters in active duty because of the reasons the american F22 are rotting in their bases, that is lack of any mission, even though USA is good at invading! the main focus of india should be to get the basics in the critical tech areas straight. first lets us master the K9 and then operationalise the UTTAM AESA, and indigenise the various smartbombs and BVR that we currently import. once the jet starts flying we can easily integrate future genrations characteristics like that of swarm ucav, etc. if we dont build the indigenous capabilities independent of PSUs then when the war strikes we will not be able to undertake real-time improvisations in the high-tech arena, becoz we wont be needing AMCA to fight pakistan. in korea, or japan or turkey, evry stealth fighter is somehow dependent on west. even chna is dependent on west as they need to steal their data! but india cant be at ransom of BAE, or SAAB or BOEING for AMCA!

    besides, things have been moving very fast in HAL, in the last one-half years. am no insider or an expert. for the head of a supposedly black project to say that to would take another ten years to build the prototype, seems to me like a disinformation. after all, none of us knew that K4 was going to launched from arihant, did we? and if they have frozen the design and 70% of stealth is dependent on fuselage, and since unlike tejas (where new institutions were made for project),know-how of FBW and all exists in-house , i wonder what would cause the delay . perhaps engone and radar is the issue, but even tejas prototypes didnt always use american ge404! so why the delay? cannot understand! maybe its my ignorance! still wud like some answers though!

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    Tejpal Dhillon

    Shiv, firstly, thank you very much for the coverage!

    I have one question to ask, is there a typo here:

    ” ‘If you consider that the LCA Mk.1 will be built till 2024 and the LCA Mk.2, when ordered, should be built between 2030-35, then 2035 is good target for production of the AMCA,’ Balaji says.”

    Should it be rather “built between 2025-2035” rather than “2030-2035”? I find it difficult to believe there would be a 5 year gap between Mk1A production ceasing and Mk2 production starting as well as Mk2 development taking 13+ years.

    Thanks so much, Tej!

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      Tejpal Dhillon

      Also, one last question, by “LCA Mk1” and “LCA Mk2” is he referring to the Indian Air Force Tejas variants? i.e. Mk1 = Mk1 + Mk1A and LCA Mk2 = LCA Tejas Mk2? Rather than referring to the Indian Naval, N-LCA Mk1 and N-LCA Mk2 variants?

      Once again, thanks very much!

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    Nishith Mukherjee

    Another area of concern is to protect our IPR from others particularly Chinese who are masters of stealth. They would employ money as well ISI to get IPR. Please enlighten. Thanks for new information

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    2030 first flight? by that time of batch production US will have teletransportation!

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    that,s absurd !! China will build dual engine 8th gen fighter by then !!! irony is we are going to throw money on single engine gripen ! !!Can you believe it india is worst then smallest country in the world you could find ( swindon ) ! where the fuck is tejas ? it,s been more than 30 years !!

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    We are not in a Situation Compare India With Countries Lyk China ,USA.(GDP USA-20 Trillion China-19 Trillion//India-2.3 Trillion.
    No words ”’ How You People are Compering India With USA and China..Leave China ,USA we are less Superior to Country Lyk Israeli & Sweden…..

    Blame those Policy Maker who are Completely Responsible for this…
    1.Lack of Political Willingness.
    2.Cast reservation in PSU or R&D sector result(Good Brain or Merritt People have no place to Use their Talent or Idea).
    3. Huge Population(Required Money not Allotted to Defense Procurement or research) .
    5.No accountability for all Running or Absconding Defense Project(No seriousness or Target or Penalty).
    6.N number of reason are there…

    Mr,Durtma Gandhi, Basta– last the 60 years Congress (Fake Gandhi/Original Khan Family responsible for this..(Sonia Khan/Vinci/Fake Gandhi net worth 19.21 Billion USA Dollar),where she Got this ..Only through Commission through defense Procurement and Scams..
    …Please wake of Boys and Try to know the Fact…..

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    JC Malik

    The coverage is excellent. It is very reader friendly and informs the reader about developments in acquisition of equipment by the Defence Services with commendable clarity.

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    It is time private players took this challenge. They will atleast deliver in another 5-6 years, if the infrastructure with the public sector players are thrown open to them. In 2035, the world will be in 6th Generation jets not in this 5th generation manned aircraft!

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    Baptu Dss

    I can give guarantee that if at anytime in Olympic game , the competition of laziness comes dn nobody in this world can beat u guys , model showed at 2017 , n perfect time of production is 2035 , u can take some more time , fly first prototype at 2050, produce it in 2090 my son or daughter will see AMCA flying in the sky… till dn modify n upgrade tejas …


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