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26 Comments on "IAF Chief Sounds First Anxious Note On MMRCA"

Matt
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Matt
3 years 2 months ago

Would love to know if there's any meat behind rumours that the IAF is looking to the Israelis or others and not MBDA to provide missile systems for the Rafale . . .

Matt
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Matt
3 years 2 months ago

Would be interested to know if there's any meat behind the rumours that the IAF may look to the Israelis or others and not MBDA for missiles for Rafale. . .

Parthasarathi
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3 years 2 months ago
We should have ordered Gripen NG long time back. Gripen NG is having a common engine with Tejas. ( F 414) Maintenance cost would have been less. Now in my mind there are few options to replace Mig 21s. Considering Tejas is a stillborn child. 1) Buying 2nd hand Mirage 2000-9 from UAE. and France.(Immediately.)As UAE. is a willing seller and IAF. is very pleased with Mirage 2000. 2) Ordering more MKI 30. Anyway unless until we are making our own fighters we have to face this type of problem. We are going to spending 20 Billion on new fighters… Read more »
RD
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RD
3 years 2 months ago

No back up, no ToT, no upgrade, no time frame, no money, now this was not expected from the defence forces. Now we will hear that the migs will undergo 'major upgrade' or 'deep upgrade' to serve till 2050.

Anonymous
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Anonymous
3 years 2 months ago

Ditch Dassault!

Buy Boeing, FA18. already c-17 and p8I. on time on budget.

parthvader89
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parthvader89
3 years 2 months ago
If you buy Rafale, but 400-500 of them and retire every other fighter in the IAF over the next decade or more and cancel FGFA. Else, Buy 500 F-35 and retire all other aircraft. In either case, make sure we have source code and copyrights to modify, upgrade and develop the platform independently over the lifetime. Then make sure during the MLU in 2025 timeframe, we have Indian radar, EW, sensors and weapons. Meanwhile focus on AMCA and AURA. Redefine AMCA as a 6th/7th generation fighter that must be competitive with what the americans and europeans pull out at the… Read more »
Anonymous
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Anonymous
3 years 2 months ago

@Parthasarathi
Our airforce will be very pleased with any weapons system as long it is foreign and generate oodles of kickbacks.
Anybody who has flown the Tejas has only praise for this aircraft. And those very same people behind Mirage and Rafale have helped develop the Tejas in no small way. The IAF like Indian Army keeps making changes at the very last moment thereby prolonging the induction of such indigenous weapons system.
We need a defense minister with more spine and morals to pull the ears of IAF and force them to induct indigenous products.

Anonymous
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Anonymous
3 years 2 months ago

Hornets were the best choice still. It has the Aesa radar which IAF considers important.

Anonymous
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Anonymous
3 years 2 months ago
Why are both parties to this deal dragging their feet wrt inking the final contract? MMRCA competition went on for few years and the French knew very well all the terms and conditions for this deal. If they had reservations, they shouldn't have participated.They are acting like the Russians. They've already screwed us on Scorpene deal which is again plagued with corruption charges.If this goes on any longer, India must walk away from this deal and award the contract to Typhoon or scrap the entire MMRCA and opt for 5th Gen strike fighter like F35 which now cost almost as… Read more »
Anonymous
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Anonymous
3 years 2 months ago

We should be emphasising building our own fighters!

Anonymous
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Anonymous
3 years 2 months ago
There is no money for anybody with tejas and 20 plus billion in purchase and lot of money on spares and upgrades and so lot of malai for everyone and so lot of people are so restless to get the project signed. What is logic in Mirage upgrade at 41 million a piece on an old plane with old body and outdated engine which costs more than brand new Tejas mk2 . The selection of substandard hawk and pilutus itself proves the point and 10 billion MMRCA project suddenly became 20 billion. At this cost F 35 can be bought… Read more »
victor raj
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3 years 2 months ago

Ok good, leave everything behind and concentrate on improving our LCA Tejas to Rafale's level. By looking at how much self-reliant we are at our Missile program, I believe if we try, we can succeed fighter development too. IAF please start to look at indigenous programs.

Anonymous
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Anonymous
3 years 2 months ago

Su-30 and PAK-FA are the back up. Not to mention Agni, Prithvi and other missiles

Anonymous
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Anonymous
3 years 2 months ago
The f-35s would be flying for many asian countires like israel turkey singapore southkorea in a few years from now when iaf would be receiving their first lot of Rafales if there was no cold war or arms race between the USSR and USA indian-af might have been flying the largest fleet of f-16s and f-15s flying outside america .it is immiment that indian airforce may have to buy more supersukhoi30s if the rafale deal doesnt go through or is further delayed.It is too late now to buy used planes from any country although used F-16s from the US could… Read more »
Anonymous
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Anonymous
3 years 2 months ago

Buy 126 more su30 if needed and put end to this story

Anonymous
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Anonymous
3 years 2 months ago

UPA is dragging its feet in concluding the MMRCA deal. Policy paralysis is well known with this government. Everything haphazard and messy.

Anonymous
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Anonymous
3 years 2 months ago

why dont you put a comments column with like dislike and reply

self employed tax payer
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3 years 2 months ago

i would love to pay double the tax for rest of my life, if my govt clears all projects and brings the force up to good standards. Enough waiting, we are willing to work extra hours to protect our home, jago politicians, before it's too late to fly these jets home

Anonymous
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Anonymous
3 years 1 month ago
The Rafale selection beats me on logic. I am not Indian but I still say India should have put its money into Tejas. Look at the delta winged US X-31 of the early 1990s. I would put paddles (thrust vectoring) and canards so Tejas Mk2 can have superb maneuvrability. The X-31 did maneuvers that Rafale can only dream on. I would invest in stealth coatings to render Tejas more stealthy. Tejas is already small so with coatings and carbon fuselage, ts detection will get harder. Let's talk straight. By the time Rafale gets into IAF, what is its chance against… Read more »
Anonymous
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Anonymous
2 years 6 months ago

20 Billion Dollars and more!!

Wouldn't it be wise to order More Su-30MKIs and MiG-29Ks instead, since we are already too late… But if Rafale is still required due to some of its technologies, wouldn't it be better to just order 40 odd Rafales off-the-shelf, like the French have already offered? Order more if really needed…

Anonymous
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2 years 5 months ago

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Anonymous
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Anonymous
2 years 5 months ago

You won't get any source code with the F-35.
Not even the British are getting that.
Gripen NG is not ready until maybe 2018,
so it won't help short term needs.
Gripen NG instead of Tejas Mk II may make sense.

Anonymous
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Anonymous
2 years 5 months ago

You won't get any source code with the F-35.
Not even the British are getting that.
Gripen NG is not ready until maybe 2018,
so it won't help short term needs.
Gripen NG instead of Tejas Mk II may make sense.

Anonymous
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Anonymous
2 years 1 month ago

Now that the production version of the LCA has flown, we should order more of them and cancel the Rafale proposal. Buying the Rafale will lock us in with Dassault for the next 50 years. That's not wise.

Moreover, missiles such as Agni, Prithvi, Brahmos, Pechora and Akash have replaced fighters. The alleged shortage of fighter squadrons is a myth.

Anonymous
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Anonymous
2 years 1 month ago
I think if this deal fails after so many years, Dassault will never come back. Just as they now do for countries like Taïwan/South-Korea: They have probably the best (and only) up to date multirole fighter in the world. They win all the evaluations for these trials and the plane was in all last decade conflicts and did benefit from experience returns. What price can be put on that? F35 was called a big thanksgiving turkey by F18 (now a bit outdated but still a good concurrent) and F16 conceptor. Furtivity (that never lasts longs toward radar evolution) added too… Read more »
amit jaiswar
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2 years 1 month ago
We should consider buying su 35 instead of Rafael . Chinese airforce Plaaf is ready to order su 35 because of its powerful engine but russians wont give it to china because they just want the engine for their j20 and jh 31 stealth fighters . Su 35 is faster and more better than Su mki. In 20 billion dollors we can easily get more than 200 Su 35 fighters. Along with more than 200 S 400, S 500 Surface to Air missile Systems which can kill any thing in the sky even steath aircrafts. S 400 has a range… Read more »
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